Post details: Psalm 19—Blog 5
Psalm 19—Blog 5
A Torah Psalm
A casual reading of psalm 19 leaves one wondering the connection between its three sections: 1–6 the heavens, 7–10 Torah, 11–14 confession. So maybe some notes can help us determine where the poet was going with his thoughts.
“The heavens are telling of the glory of God.” I am sorry to begin this way, but to the secular eye glued to a telescope the heavens offer no glimpse of God. Christianity, and perhaps other religions, work this way; once one is “in” God may more readily be experienced, but from the outside looking in most religions, Christianity included, just do not make sense. Whatever irrationality scientists see in the heavens, God is not the answer they propose. As we discussed in class Friday, that what faith is all about. (see xxx for a excellent discussion on the creation vs. evolution stuff)
You must have realized after several courses with me that evangelism, how normally explained, is not something that I am too interested in. After many years of struggling with the issue, obediently handing out whatever I was told to do, I finally gave up, it’s just not me. God is ok with that for me (don’t use me as your excuse); I have a full time job that more than requires all that I can give, and then some. So I am far more interested in the “keeping in” part of the process than the “getting in” part. That is, I am interested in you!
The entire remaining “in” process should be working toward a more holy life; how that’s accomplished requires too much thought for this time of night, but here’s an overview. Christian living must be done in community, each accountable one another. By myself I can develop good devotional habits, good church going habits, carry around 3x5 cards with behavior relating instructions, memorize texts, and even vary the process so as not to become routine. But stuff happens, events occur unexpectedly, words are said without thought, sin occurs, so here I go again back to the beginning.
That’s when community helps: husband and wife balance each other; when one is weak the other strong, when one is stuck in a habit the other works in new areas, sharing builds. A family should function identically. What about a small bible college? Could we reconstitute ourselves as a place where Christian character develops in community, a place where staff works hard teaching and serving, while students work hard learning the Christian life skills necessary for 21st century living? What would such a classroom look like? Would there even be classrooms? How could I best teach you what I know and how it should be implemented without doing it for you? Ok that’s enough on this rabbit trail, let’s get back to psalm 19.
Only a poet would propose the heavens speak with silent speech, vv. 2–3. But then do not the heavens speak? I wonder if we have lost our observational skills. The ancients, particularly the Assyrians, became masters of recording the movements of the sun, moon, and stars as these bodies circled around the earth. It all had to do with astronomy which drove their astrology. Sometime do a google search for Ptolemy the Greek astronomer; his work brought together all that had gone before defining astronomy for 1200 years until the enlightenment star gazers figured out that the earth revolved about the sun. (A great heresy at the time for the church.)
Turning to the most notable heavenly body, the sun, our poet envisions a day’s beginning as the sun, now compared to a bridegroom, exits his night chamber to travel either to his wedding’s bliss or the first night after the event; in either situation that’s one happy sun emerging for a day’s shining and heating. Astronomically speaking, they did not have a clue what the sun did after it sank in the west and before in rose in the east; i.e., flat earth. But they did know that at day’s end nothing below had not been exposed to the sun’s rays.
The Torah serves a similar purpose; its instruction covers all aspects of life. Notice the synonyms: Torah, instruction, testimony, precepts, commandments, fear, judgments—that given by God to his people to guide their lives, each of which is followed by an adjective: perfect, sure, right, pure, clean, and true, and together result in a benefit: restoration, making wise, rejoicing, enlightening, enduring, and righteous. Taken together these principles work to keep one “in.” Now here’s the problem: the need to know Torah so that one may live successfully, must drive one’s life. I must work diligently to know how God’s word directs me to act in each life situation. The will of God for my life is not some obscure who will I marry or where will I work, but rather how do I live before a holy God today. If you can sell that Torah study must be more desirable than gold to young people you will change the church.
It’s about time I ended this novel, so let’s look at the final paragraph. The problem with ultra Torah living is that God’s word exposes us for whom we really are. No wonder most Christians shy away from reading, learning, and living by the book; blissful ignorance attracts far more than hard reality. Just a closing comment on the word blameless in vs. 13; neither the OT writers, nor Paul who likewise used this term, referred to themselves as sinless. Rather what they meant was sins addressed in the prescribed manner. Doing so as frequently as necessary results in one being blameless.
Comments:
As for ultra Torah living I believe that it is a hard concept to understand for most people. How do you feel is it a hard concept for you? (because it is for me). We are in essence taught either by society or our parents that we should look out for ourselves asnd then help others. In actuality it seems that jesus did just the opposite He looked out for others and then Himself. Again this goes back to community I feel as though we are so far away from hopw to successfully "do' community that we have no ceoncept to be ultra Torah livers. Man I am feeling convicted as I write this now, because I often fall short of community living, and serving others before myself. Any suggestions as to how we can improve community living?
By the way Rabbi I agree that some are called to "get others in" while some are called to "keep others in", but/and all are called to serve God.
orientation - disorientation -reorientation.. until death. But, I believe that it is way to go more close to God.
God please give us distress to be able to overcome by ourselves.
I think christian community is very important.
When I feel that God is too far away from me, community of christian help me not to go far away from GOD.
human itself is too weak without GOD.
Oh, LORD, please help us to feel you more closely.
As much as the psalmist is not correct for all eyes that gaze heavenwards, but I enjoy the beauty and the childlike faith of a person who looks all around and marvels… such wonder at Yhwh in all creation. Someone looking at God in everything that tangibly signifies to me someone who is truly in love with his or her Creator. Science and all other “measuring techniques” set aside, I think we are permitted the freedom and flexibility to love God whole heartedly, however that looks for us, recognizing that most of the world does not share our perspective of life. Maybe even Christians don’t either, but I guess my life is somewhat full of all these checks and balances, different systems I create for myself to keep “in” with God… and encouraging my brother or sister to stay “in” as well. Wasn’t that the whole purpose of the Torah to direct the “in” lifestyle?
It’s almost amusing to compare Christians as God’s people today, following His life giving Torah with Israel. Somehow we hold it so much more loosely, far differently that Israel: Torah observation in the Christian church, to me, seems more like one reflecting another against the Torah, rather than self-evaluation. I can all too easily think I am living honestly according to the Torah is I depersonalize myself and claim that false perfection which James’ talks about- claiming to always keep the full law. The Torah was intended for those where were already in, as instruction for living, not, as we like to think, universal standards to be imposed on all mankind. My life lived according to the Torah will, however, serve that evangelism function of speaking out to the real relationship and community that exists in such a disjointed world. If God is the lover of my soul, then why do I treat His love letter like obligation rather than the negotiations of our relationship? I feel we Christians sell the Torah short by our mentality rather than depiction: I don’t think the world or our communities was perfection out of us—only the naïve idealist would so hold—but Torah living requires honesty about where I am right now that uncovers shameful parts of my everyday life… but even in these, the Torah reflects a picture of God if I am honest with it before others.
How do we become a people who reflect the Torah to one another within our own little community and beyond? Far too complex a question, far too many possibilities to answer by one person in one blog at one time. We have discussed some of the key aspects of Torah living as an individual with the Book: honesty with God in that book, that we really do behave with Gomer-like actions and intent at times when we act without thinking (or even allowing ourselves to think sinfully); seeking to live a life that better reflects the word there. When I conceptualize “Torah” I think of not just instruction for living, but an actual way of life, a calling of reflection… a living word. Torah holds only as much obligation as that marital covenant between a husband and wife, between God and His people… both must be engaging in action. The reflection has many facets, allowing for the entire body of Christ, even the specific body of our little Bible college to reflect just a bit differently than the next person, all reflections combined giving a fuller, ever-changing picture of what it means to live rightly before God and one another. To live out this Torah, this word of God, which imparts and encourages life, I think we each must take up the challenge to be far more honesty, dangerously so, with God, others, and self. I picture Torah-living as a process in constant revision by very design—all we need is the honesty to submit ourselves to the humbling process of self and communal adjustment and a drive to keep finding the new adjustment needing to be made.
Since we’re comparing the Torah to the sun, to an eager sun, newly married to setting forth to reclaim his bride, I like the idea of the sun being the most obvious body in the heavens and seeing all things before finding/returning/claiming its beloved. I wonder how many of us set the Torah as central focus of our life and acknowledge that it passes through as sees all in our hearts, minds, and lives? If I am picturing Torah as a living entity, a living Word of God, then the Torah sees all anyways, and why do I try and hide from it rather than embrace what it acknowledges about me and my life. I am exposed, at least before God, regardless of how I hide, so why do I not confess and be whole before my community as well? Maybe I do not perceive the Torah as obviously as the sun is figured, because while a holy lifestyle is principled out in the Torah, I must dedicate myself to sinking into those pages to face the sun or else I am lost. I fear we have lost the love of Torah by making it obligation: we were never meant to dread doing good, what have we done to God by thinking such of the Torah?
If it is a dangerous honesty Torah living requires with self, God and one another, I wonder how we can be constant about looking for and listening to what the Torah tells us, as a community and individuals. I wonder if that itself can become orientation, and allow us to slip from grace. More and more, human nature, to me, seems incompetent of preserving the sanctity of any pursuit, even ever-changing Torah living. But I have the Torah on my heart now, cut there with God’s diamond-sharp knife, deep on my heart, and that Spirit works its mystery within the Torah cut there. I might still be seeking perfection in hoping we might always engage the Torah and always be changing… so I will close in gratitude that the Torah allows me grace to become blameless again when I have slipped from honesty.
Evangelism in my life is not the questions I ask strangers or the tracts I hand out (I do not hand out tracts)but the relationships I build with those that do not yet know or care who God is. It is hard this way. There is often no immediate response and besides simply living honestly before them, loving them, and speaking God's praise confidently and naturally when an opportunity presents itself, there may be little of the current understanding of evangelism. But I pray for these relationships, for the influence of my testimony and the genuinesss of my lifestyle. I pray for my friends and my family and I do my best to leave their hearts up to God. I cannot live without reaching out to them, though. I love them too much - I love my God too much...
In reference to community I have been encouraged this year to see the development of a unified desire to live for God on this campus and to love God's people - and people in general. God answers prayer!
To "sell" the kind of devoted Torah study of which you speak one must first live it out. This is the challenge from many non-believers. Do not try to give them something that is in no way evident in your own life because they will have no desire to accept it. Make it real personally and commit to the "product" of the Torah and then your life will sell it, you'll just have to tell people the Source. It is often the connection between the difficulty of living Torah and evangelism that drives my relationship with my God. If I am called to speak His name and His ways to others, I first must be the one to change and grow. Only then will what I say matter.
I hope I'm not painting a pitiful picture, but I hope I'm adequatley expressing my frustration, and dare i say, my lonliness in the Christain community. Is there any room left in Church for people like me? Is there any place for me in Heaven? Ouch. The Kingdom of God is within me. Too bad "me" is the problem
Perhaps Dr. Snyder’s lifestyle evangelism in the classroom is the answer. Following ones personal call and utilizing God given talents and strengths may reach individuals like the astronomer. When we do life – in public it affords us the opportunity to have contact with such individuals.
As for changing the environment at our college, I can only offer my own experiences. I strive to be transparent, knowing that others can learn from both my successes and failures. Sharing my experience with others helps me process and relearn more from my own experiences. With that said, I encourage my classmates to open up in the safe confines of our classroom. Dr. Snyder’s office truly is the safest place on campus. Why be transparent, because we can learn from each other.
subject of orientation-disorientation-reorientation. In the
disorientation stage one would think that there is no hope
(unless they have given up on God completely). I think that we
must look at this process with an eternal perspective. We have
the earthly perspective of hope down, but even that seems
unimaginable.
Sure I think that we should be seeking after God and he will show himself to us if we seek him genuinely. It is much more simple than people make it I fell. And yet at the same time I always have the fear of messing up. I think that I would probably be more secure in my decisions if I did the whole book and not just the parts that are easy or the parts that I like. Honestly being a Christian is not that fun, but then again I don't know how fun it is supposed to be. I think that it is exciting and dynamic but not fun and when we advertise it as being fun we are wrong.
I have hopes that in my seeking of Lady Wisdom, I have sought out the decrees, and instructions of Yahweh. I am after all seeking a pure Wisdom; I don't have need of her corrupted sisters who have thrown God away. I can see her now wrapped within the Torah. I am faced with a difficult task for I must peel away God's words to fully see my wondrous lady. I must seek her through his many words so that I may more fully know her. I rather not find Wisdom only to turn her back because we knew each other not.
As I see the words of Yahweh written within the Torah I begin to learn more of the woman who I seek. She is true and righteous; as I said previous my Lady is a pure one, why should I not seek her? I can remember hearing her call of how much more is she to be desire over gold, I seek God's Torah and I see that in my Lady. My Lady is also a sweet one, and as I seek her she warns me of many things. O how precious my Lady Wisdom is to me. I want to be innocent before Yahweh, and yet I have all these faults, and they appear not so hidden to God all mighty.
My dear Wisdom advises me against sinning, o the many sins that I could and do commit, the various sins that I do which are so deliberate; I want to be limited of those. And with the graceful Wisdom by my side I can only hope so. Perhaps then I can actually be someone what innocent before Yahweh. I can only hope that he at least sees that I am trying and see that I am holding Wisdom's hand tightly. As I meditate the Torah which surrounds her, and as my dear Wisdom embraces me tightly, perhaps then I can be acceptable in God's sight. Let him be my rock and Deliverer, sure but Let' Wisdom's sweet embrace get me there.
The relationship of Torah and Sun speaks to me. I crave the sun, love hanging out in it, and would never want to be without it. Could you imagine for a second a world without the sun?
Do I feel that way about the Torah? If only I would love hanging out in it. Why is it so difficult to take the Torah for what it is.
In the view of history, we look back with "perfect vision." Yet, even at the forefront of the world civilization, we still seem to miss the mark. Why is that? How is it, that we have the Torah, we have all that has been written and handed to us and yet we as the church still seem to be missing something. The idea that is in my mind is that we are to be constantly and consistently searching God. All of us are, so lets not act as if it is a secret and we have Him figured out. Just because we are "saved," doesn't mean that we have everything that we have been looking for. God still works through and with us. I believe that He will be doing that into eternity.
As Christians, we know that the grueling and agonizing steps to take are the ones that mature us, but we as humans would rather take the easy route. Sometimes I think that may be situational circumstances. For example, there are times when following God is not the easiest thing to do, quite frankly, it may the hardest, but it is the most rewarding. But sometimes when we mess up and do things our own way, that may also be considered the easy route, but is harder in the long run, right? Thinking back on my own life, the times when I tried to take the easy route and do things my own way, God showed me that it was not possible to successfully and pleasingly disobey Him. Yet, even in those circumstances, the result allowed me to mature far faster and more forcefully then otherwise. I am not condoning the whole "force learning process." That is not the wise way to live life. Yet, with some people, it is the most effective way. Maybe more of us should get our butts kicked around a little just to see what life is really like.
The community was probably originally set up as a help allowance program, or at least neighbors working together to help one another. This is still somewhat effective today and still practiced, but it is fewer and farther heard of. In my opinion, I don't even think that we can accomplish this in our very classroom, let alone communities in society. It is a rare thing to see this happen effectively. I am sad to say that, just as was spoken of in class, no one wants to show their true identity to anyone. This society is a "Stained Glass Masquerade" and we wonder why (Casting Crowns). We wonder why this is, but just step back and look what happens just in our classroom. One person speaks up and reveals what they are truly thinking and opens up their self and they are protruded by the comments of the rest of the class. Sometimes, instead of disagreeing or even agreeing, maybe we all should just think about and ponder and chew what has been shared. Our society is too critical and judgmental for whole communities to effectively work together. We all "feel" that we have the answer, when in reality, maybe none of us really do.
In questioning this, who is really called to "keep others on the "IN""? In comment to Dan's statement, is it not the Holy Spirit's job to do that? Are we really capable of "keeping anyone "IN""? If it had to deal with people trying to keep me in, I would not be "in" anymore. God is the only one who has kept me "in" anything, and even so, it has been Him working in me to do so. Yet, in my personal life, it is more rewarding for me to serve others than it is to serve myself, yet I do not always do just that.
In my opinion, I feel we should look more at ourselves and out from ourselves to see the need in others and not the judgments that we can give them. Just as Matthew 7:1-6 talks about, lest not us judge others for what they do, but rather judge ourselves and see what help we can give them.
There is more that I would like to write about, but it is getting late as I write this, and I am not prepared to continue this at all hours of the night.
Matt, I love the sonnet to Lady Wisdom. May all of us find spiritual lovers as faithful as your fair Sophia.
i was blind before i knew One who is my Savior. i could not notice/ see God in heavens and earth that He created. even now, i still don't have "the perfect-open-eyes" to see/ notice His greatness. however, since i received His salvation, He has been working to open my eyes to see/notice Him through all of things that He created. (and it also remind me psalm 33:5). when i read this verses and think about those, it reminded me Psalm 8:3-4. that is my thought.
and v.7-14 also remind me psalm 119:9-19. one of my friends told me the word of God is like a mirror to image(reflect) own's inside of heart. His words can declare real ownself and sin inside of us, and lighten/ show how we should walk this life.
Secondly, to me, evangelism is more than just words. It is how I live my life, and the relationships that I form with others. It seems that more and more today, relationship evangelism is a must. People just don't trust others like they used to in past years. People close their hearts and mids to those they do not know, and in order to get to know someone and be able to share Christ, a relationship must be formed. And a key component to relational evangelism is being an example of Christ and showing love. Only by our example of Christ would anyone want to be a Christian.
Lastly, like I said in the last paragraph, we must live out the Torah in our lives. Is isn't enough to just know the Bible. It won't transform you if you don't allow it to. Study, prayer, and fellowship are key components to on'e relationship with Christ, and if we aren't getting those things, it tends to show in our lives. In order to be example of Christ and his love to others, we must be in constant communication with God and constantly seeking him.
I agree with what everyone is saying concerning relationship evangelism. However, I think that it is also important to verbally share the gospel message. It is of course important that our lives demonstrate Christ, but words are needed as well. Though some may argue with me, there are people in today's world that live decent lives (according to their own standards not God's). To an unsaved person, how are they to tell the difference between your love and their's. Sometimes we have to explain why we think, talk, and act in the manner that we do. I think that there must be both a relationship (demonstrate with the way we live), but that there must also be a verbal sharing of God and His love and work in our lives.
I also agree with the idea that most Christians are worried about doing the process (reading, understanding, & living the Bible) because it exposes who they truly are. As we have talked about in class what God wants from us is for us to be honest and raw with Him. However, it is one thing to be honest and raw with God and another to be that way with others. I think that some of this comes back to the whole idea of our society being so consumed with "politically correctness". For the most part, in society, we are not allowed to be real and honest with one another because it may offend someone or what they believe. Unfortunately I think that this has traveled over into the church (making the church politically correct). Could this be part of the reason that we are so hesitant to share honestly with one another (whether it be a praise, prayer request, something God is teaching us, etc.)?
Now we come to the last section of the psalm. This I think especially speaks to the one who sees God in creation, and in His word. The one who sees God there, has his sins shown to him. The servant of the Lord who desires to please Him, will not hide from the revelation of sins, but seek God's cleansing, and even ask God to show him more--the secret faults as well as the presumptuous sins. That one wants not only to have actions that please God, but also his words, and even his thoughts to be acceptable to the Lord. And there is the recognition of God's role in cleansing and giving strength to live that way.
I love the last verse, and it is also a prayer of mine, but not often enough. Personally, I know that many things keep me from God's word, from time spent alone with him in quiet meditation, the business of life, of school, of work, of family, and the desire just to relax and not work at the relationship. Can anyone answer a question for me, how does one be quiet before God, listening for the still small voice without a)falling asleep, or b)having your mind fill with busy thoughts?
How should we live before a holy God?
Torah articulates God's intentions.
We can choose life or death.
We have to follow from the will of God obediently.
I watched News about a murder who kills young child.
Until now, the polices is looking for the murder and the reason why he kill her...I feels sad and scared..
..say that human is not bad.. just his behavior is bad..
But now, I really really hate someone who kill child.
Why does it happen to us?
why? I want to ask to God...
How should we live before a holy God?
At this time, we have to think about this, so deeply...
Like you said, we have to teach Torah study and they have to be changed...
God, I pray for young child who is killed.
I pray her spirit will go to your house.
we don't have anything to believe and trust except you.
please save us from this pit.
I read Psalm 19 many times,and I appreciate the way you have posted it.The sun,with it's splendour and brilliance,is a
particularly notable witness to God's glory.However if people
are to know God's glory,we need more detailed knowledge than the physical creation can provide.We need God's written word.
That word is the authoritative revelation of God's will for
each one who wishes to deligently seek Him.This word has a worth beyond value and it brings enjoyment beyond comparison.
The Torah warns and instructs people and makes us more sensitive to sin.It brings an increased desire for cleanliness from such sinful life and strive to live a
blameless life.Spurgeon, called God's word 'A World Book and A word Book".The God of nature made known to man through God's written word.To learn about this God we have to be "IN".
We have to be with God both in good times and in hard times.
We have to be in the community of a Bible preaching church
which is only half of the community and live a life that is pleasing this God of all creation so that the other half of
unsaved community would see and learn as we strive to portray the qualities of The Savior.It is the life a christian lives
the world sees,not the handouts we give out although written
information plays an important role as well.
If we can remind ourselves that everything is a risk (including spending time with God and people) and we are on this world to serve him then God can use us effectively. I say praise God that he even wants to spend time with a idiot like me!
I am struggling with what you said about
not being interested in evangelism.
About Psalm 19: About the heavens
declaring the glory of God: God says in
His word that we are without excuse
because of His creation. No one is going
to be able to say, "I didn't see God
when I looked up into the night sky, so
I should be allowed into heaven, even
though I lived a sinful life and didn't
accept Jesus as my Saviour and my Lord."
God meant what He said--we, as humans,
are without excuse.
By God's grace I am where I am today.
I'm trying to live according to the Torah.
Thank God for it! It shows me my sin.
My personal prayer:
Psa 19:12 Who can discern his errors?
Declare me innocent from hidden faults.
Psa 19:13 Keep back your servant also
from presumptuous sins; let them not
have dominion over me! Then I shall be
blameless, and innocent of great
transgression.
Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth and
the meditation of my heart be acceptable
in your sight, O LORD, my rock and my
redeemer.
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