Post details: Jer 12: G-d speaks
Jer 12: G-d speaks
They are mine: my home, my heart, my very being
I have chosen to give them up,
to be abused by their enemies
My own turned against me, violently so
I once loved, now I hate them
I open the devourer's cage
My fruitful garden lies waste
green pastures and still waters muddied
What I once populated, now I have plagued
victors become victims
Their work avails no gain
I make deaf my ears to their pleas
They desire their pleasures met
I have heard, what they
need arrives soon
Without remorse I turn loose the invaders
the Janizaries whirl, frenzied for blood
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Comment from: Earl [Visitor] 
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I can't help but read a lot into that, whether it is intended or not I do not know.
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01/21/08 @ 19:07
Comment from: Hannah Mecaskey [Visitor] · http://leshemshamayim.wordpress.com/
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Earl, can't we really do that with all the Bible?
Rabbi Jeremiah, my Kabbalahist says that when God sent Israel into exile/abuse, He sent Himself there as well, the Shekinah part of His presence, because that part of His glory is dependent on the people. So God needs us but He doesn't? What a contradiction, my mind doesn't understand. But I love Him that way.
Can He love them while He hates them? Hate? Such a strong word for my Holy Father. Whatever happened to mercy? Doesn't He love when we disobey, which allows our very disobedience? I don't understand, Yhwh, You are zealous for Your name and You love You own... but when they threaten You name... can You stop loving them, because haven't You made us a part of Yourself?
My Kabbalahist says that God created out of a part of Himself, the "emptiness" or "nothingness" part of Yhwh... but wherever I come from, by giving me Your Name, Holy Father, I have become part of Your. Will You cut a part of Yourself off? Or is that different to letting me walk away?
At some level, Yhwh, I think You love the damned. Rabbi Jeremiah, where is the end of our perceived love from God? His justice rivals Him compassion... hm. My mind cannot understand, but I think my heart can feel the truth of it... because my heart can't comprehend God, it can just know Him in faith.
Hannah
Rabbi Jeremiah, my Kabbalahist says that when God sent Israel into exile/abuse, He sent Himself there as well, the Shekinah part of His presence, because that part of His glory is dependent on the people. So God needs us but He doesn't? What a contradiction, my mind doesn't understand. But I love Him that way.
Can He love them while He hates them? Hate? Such a strong word for my Holy Father. Whatever happened to mercy? Doesn't He love when we disobey, which allows our very disobedience? I don't understand, Yhwh, You are zealous for Your name and You love You own... but when they threaten You name... can You stop loving them, because haven't You made us a part of Yourself?
My Kabbalahist says that God created out of a part of Himself, the "emptiness" or "nothingness" part of Yhwh... but wherever I come from, by giving me Your Name, Holy Father, I have become part of Your. Will You cut a part of Yourself off? Or is that different to letting me walk away?
At some level, Yhwh, I think You love the damned. Rabbi Jeremiah, where is the end of our perceived love from God? His justice rivals Him compassion... hm. My mind cannot understand, but I think my heart can feel the truth of it... because my heart can't comprehend God, it can just know Him in faith.
Hannah
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01/22/08 @ 09:29
Comment from: Dr. Snyder [Member]
Of course G-d went into exile with his people, Ez 1, just like he went into the wilderness with the first generation. G-d's love of his own always wins out in the end (Ex 34:6,7 theologians should begin and end each day reading those verses), so "hate" is just the margin of love.
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01/22/08 @ 09:54
Comment from: Marcia Payton-Harp [Visitor] · http://I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t know what a URL is
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God indeed has a temper and limits, believers know this and many other people understand it (but chose not to live a godly life). It is like we test, nag, and teas God along til He is forced to take an action.
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02/01/08 @ 13:50
Comment from: chris dorais [Visitor]
God is God and he has good sides and bad sides. I tell you I would hate to be on God's bad side. I am happy to have God love me and not hate me. I feel pity for God's enemies because his wraith we be quick and it will last forever.
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